Monday, May 28, 2007

Those Vanderbilt men... everything for an Interview! Did you know Anderson Cooper wasn’t the first?

Ok, you might be known to drool over Anderson Cooper’s field reporting, the intrepidness of his trips and snarky comments… you might also know that his father was a great writer, his mother a published author and his late brother was a promising one – there is even an award granted in his name for young short story writers -… but Anderson was not the first Vanderbilt with a passion for journalism. Have you ever heard about Cornelius Vanderbilt Jr (actually the IV)? Or the Village Voice – Vanderbilt connection (and we don’t mean the Musto douche bag!)?

So here we go!

Cornelius Vanderbilt Jr. (1898-1974) was the author of one of “the most important interviews of the 20th Century” as compiled by Christopher Sylvester. The subject: Al Capone. He was the son of the of Cornelius Vanderbilt Jr. (the III) who was scorned by his father Cornelius Vanderbilt Jr (the II) and cut from the family fortune because he chose to marry an older woman whom he disapproved. Even without the Vanderbilt fortune, Vanderbilt Jr. (III) Didn’t suffer any economic nuances, because his bride’s parents where also rich. And he was a successful business man in his own right.

Vanderbilt Jr. (IV) was raised in Newport Conny and during his childhood he frequently visited Europe. Against his father’s wishes, he became a journalist when he finished his tour of duty at World War I. He was the New York Herald’s correspondent for which he interviewed the Irish poet Lord Dunsany, Belgium writer Maurice Maerterlinck and Edward, the Prince of Wales. He was the New York Times Albany collaborator and worked for United Press and Universal Service in Washington. Later he will become a freelance journalist . In 1923 he founded and presided Vanderbilt Newspapers, a group of tabloid newspapers in Los Angeles, San Francisco and Miami, but this endeavor quickly faced economic problems, forcing them to close on an early stage. He also was the Associated Editor for The New York Mirror (1925-1929).

During the ‘30s he became a collaborator with Liberty Magazine, specializing in Interviews. Among his interviewees were General Pershing, Pio XI, Mussolini, General Pilsudsky (Poland’s leader), Stalin and President Hoover. He also interviewed Hitler a couple of times. The first of them, after Hitler was arrested due to his participation in the unsuccessful Brewery Revolt in Munich. Vanderbilt threw a brick to a window in order to be arrested and bribed guardians in order to get the contiguous jail cell next to Hitler. Everything for an interview. Years later, he refused an offer to interview Hitler again because he was against the condition of “donating” $5,000 to the fund for the families of killed Nazis soldiers. He also interviewed Stalin (even when many thought he was an ogre, he thought Stalin looked more as a school teacher) many times. During the first interview, when Vanderbilt arrived, Stalin was reading a book. Later he would find out that he was reading the Bible and that he had read it in 4 languages. “He spoke more as an American Entrepreneur instead of a Red Russian leader”, Vanderbilt declared.

The last time he interviewed him, he correctly interpreted that Stalin was about to sign a non aggression treaty with Germany and had the opportunity to notify President Roosevelt about it before it happened

Vanderbilt Jr (IV) endlessly worked for Roosevelt’s Presidential Campaigns during the 1930s. He refused a job offer at his administration, but he accepted the post of Presidential Advisor, without salary or perks, and worked directly with FDR an array of issues. In 1942 he was granted with the Distinguished Service Cross from the FBI for his contribution in the arrest of a Japanese radio operator at the Pacific Coast. He wrote travel guides about Reno (1929) Park Avenue (1930), Palm Beach (1931) and in the 1940 he was a travel columnist for The New York Post and Affiliated News Features. He also published various memories: Personal Experiences of a Club Reporter (1922), Experiences of a Washington Correspondent (1929), Farewell to Fifth Avenue (1935) and Man of the World: My Life on Five Continents (1959). Vanderbilt Jr. (IV) married an astonishing seven times.

Before Vanderbilt visited Capone, he left a note to the hotel’s concierge with precise instructions if he didn’t show up in a specific time frame. In it, he wrote the address where he was going to meet Capone. The interview went well, and Capone and Vanderbilt were already planning to meet again for dinner when the phone rang. Capone answered and passing the phone to Vanderbilt Jr. (IV) he said: “It’s the police, they say I kidnapped you”.

Vanderbilt Jr.( IV) died in 1974 childless, ending the Jrs and the competition with the Buendía’s dynasty, but sometimes I think the Vanderbilt family is as complicated or doom as them.

As you all have noticed, we switched to moderated comments. We will really appreciate if the discussion stays within a rational spectrum. Thanks.

181 comentarios:

Christiane said...

I changed my mind, because my life is complicated enough! but I will delete comments which are out of line.
So please THINK THINGS THROUGH BEFORE HITTING SEND.

ivy said...

great post, christiane! Who knew! Vanderbilts have so many genealogical branches. Can't say I know too much about them, but from what I read, I agreee, they're an odd bunch, contradictons is that family's middle name

Betty B. said...

I agree with Ivy, great post indeed. They are a complicated family, while most people focus on their misadventures or their fortune, it's nice to know something knew about them that does not spell tragedy. It seems Cornelius contributed a lot socially and politically while he was alive. Apparently having guts is genetic in this family...

Anonymous said...

Great post! No wonder he's a good writer. It runs in the genes on both sides.

CASSIE MACKIN said...

What a gene pool albeit there are some elements of DNA that are not of the highest caliber!

Lots of blue blood, however!

Anonymous said...

Thank you for this very interesting history.

Sharla Dawn said...

Vanderbilts? Doom? No, you don't say! Yeah. I agree with that.

I laughed right out loud when you called Musto a douchebag. Then I had to read the article twice because I couldn't stop snickering.

I just think it's very interesting that even with WHO they were, they still did things that were very important and had a lot of significance, meaning, and probably made a difference somewhere. Those sort of ethics tend to be passed along to future generations.

Therefore I am no longer surprised at anything Anderson does. Carry on, young man....

tink said...

Thanks for the post. I don't know much about that side of the family except for how hid great-great grandfather made his money!

jr said...

Very educational post!

Looks like Vanderbilt Jr (IV) had quite an interesting life. I see he must have enjoyed traveling (like Anderson) since he was a travel columist for the New York Post.

And He was married seven times? Wow!!! Sounds like he has something in common with Trump! LOL!

Speaking of good reporters...Did you read on TVNewser that Jeff Koinange has left CNN? That's a complete shocker!

Anonymous said...

Who knows the truth, but it has been said that Koinange was fired over an affair he had and the other party posted intimate details all over her/his blog. If that's true, I'd be disappointed in CNN. Why should he take the fall for someone else being a gossip?

If you can stomach it, here's the blog from the supposed other party.

http://distantlovers.blog.com/

ivy said...

@jr - more like Larry King, wasn't he married 7 or 8 times? I hope it's not a prerequisite for a great interviewer -)

I find it pretty amazing he interviewed both stalin and hitler, especially what he did to land the latter interview. Remember all the current accusations of reporters being traitors and so on if they talk to "unfriendly side" of a conflict comparing it to interviewing hitler.

@anon 11:00 -don't worry, one of the homegrown overzealous gossip blogs already did jeff "a favour" reprinted pretty much that whole blog "in case the blog dissapears". God, they must feel solidarity with somebody who is eager to resort to the lowest tactics possible and use any means to promote a book.

jr said...

@Ivy: You're right, Larry King is probably the better one to compare him to. I guess the point being if at first you don't succeed, try, try, try, try, try, try, try again! Hee Hee!

I also thought it was interesting that he intereviewed Hitler! Back then, not sure if that would have been considered "an exclusive" or not.

I think it's cool that Anderson has such a family history from both sides of his parents. My family history doesn't even come close!

marie said...

@anon 11am
I read some of the blog and it reminds me of those Harlequin romance novels a friend of mine used to read when she was in middle school.

I am not sure if that bog's content is fiction or not, but if it is true, then I feel bad for the guy. Who wants to date someone who is a "kiss and tell?" :(

Anonymous said...

marie, did you miss the part where jk has a wife and a child on the way? blame the victim? perhaps he shouldn't have been dating, you think?

ivy said...

@anon 8:20

anything you read on internet must be true, right?

marie said...

@anon 8:20
I went back to read more and discovered the same info that you were reading. If he is, in fact married, then he definitely should not be "playing the field."

Anonymous said...

I read some of the blog mentioned by anon 11:00. Honestly it was very revealing but I doubt the authenticity of it. It's really hard to tell. They say there are always 2 sides of the story, the other side should be heard. But I doubt it if there would be.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Well, it seems another blog has killed someone's career at CNN....

tink said...

I agree w/Sharla. I'm sure there are 2 sides to every story but this seems a bit off to me. They also drag Anderson into it saying that "he and a female employee were sending flirtatious emails and CNN discouraged it" Right, if they had not said the gender maybe it would a bit more believable. These globs (gossip blogs) need to get a life!

MONICA said...

Is Freakspeakers just changed 1X per week?

ivy said...

@sharla

do you seriously believe cnn would fire their regional corr cause of somebody's online blog?

@tink
Are "they" one of local gossip blogs or that woman's blog? I missed that part. And if the gender was male that would make it relialbe? Oh, please. Seems to me you have extensive knowledge of personal life of somebody who doesn't talk about it, but let me not go there. It's been talked about over and over and over and bringing it up again won't change anything and doesn't make any difference.

tink said...

Ivy, I don't remember what blog it was that had that paragraph mentioning Anderson, but it came to me thru Google Alerts, and it was daily news blog written by a man. I don't have any inside or other knowledge, I just don't care whether he or anyone one else is gay or straight. I watch CNN and 360 for the news and reporting style, not who's sleeping with who - I get enough of that elsewhere :-)

Here's the blog that makes mention of a female associate beginning a "budding romance" with Anderson. I have no idea if it's true or not, but would be not, IMO.

http://kumekucha.blogspot.com/2007/05/jeff-koinange-was-already-in-trouble.html

ivy said...

@tink

I have seen this blog. The same woman is behind posts on the related topic, if you read older posts

tink said...

Ivy, thanks. I didn't read that far back. I'll check it out.

ivy said...

@tink
the point I was making that what you mentioned is as reliable as everything else written by this woman. And it has nothing to do with the gender. I don't know if you read the latest entries of that womans blog itself, somebody did link it in this thread. She does attempt to mix anderson with it indirectly, citing "his close friend" but fails to even spell anderson's name correctly.

Anonymous said...

I had seen that blog mentioning the woman with a "budding romance" with Anderson. One thought I had that perhaps she is a stalker fan who "thinks" she has a budding romance with Anderson and Anderson/CNN are discouraging her e-mailing him. It sounded like she was using his CNN e-mail address, but I could be wrong on that.

My opinion is if someone is friends with Anderson and they are e-mailing each other beginning a budding relationship, I would think she would have his personal e-mail address and e-mailing him there, and why would CNN be discouraging what he does in his "private" life assuming they don't know anything about his romances. I don't talk about every happening in my dating life or personal e-mails with my work.

Anonymous said...

7:42 am, the comment on the "distantlovers" blog (the blog itself is about koinange) says Anderson's budding romance is with a CNN coworker. You need to get over what you're spinning. People forget context, it seems. Third world places don't generally have modern conveniences like landlines and emails.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

@ivy. I have no idea what criteria that CNN uses to decide whether or not to fire someone. I assume it would have to be something pretty BAD, don't you think? And a blog probably isn't bad enough.

I could care less.

All I heard, was that it was because of that blog, but that IS why they call it rumors. I can point out a zillion rumors- some are right, some contain elements of truth, and some are straight up wrong.

Unless you know the whole story, you can sit and hypothesize till you're blue in the face- because you'll never know if you are right or not unless it is actually told to you!

And... like I said, I don't care. I really don't. I liked Jeff Koinange, I liked his style, and we'll probably see him somewhere else. That he has left CNN is unfortunate, whatever the circumstances. I feel badly for him losing his job, however, if he'd done something illegal or unethical he certainly deserved to be fired.

ivy said...

@ anon 11:36
it was not on the blog you mentioned, it was in the post tink gave a link to. But the source of information has to be the same. I noticed many comments draw conclusions from ac's colleague being female (just like tink did here)and not what's behind these blogs. Gotta love quoting wikipedia-) Pathetic.

jr said...

Unfortunately, we will never know the complete story regarding Jeff K. If what is being said and all those emails exchanges are, in fact, true, it appears that Jeff displays one personality on camera and another on email!

All I really know is how I see him "on camera" and he did some great reporting!

Anybody looking forward to the Presidential Debate tonight on CNN? Anderson was on live earlier this afternoon and he said he will be interviewing candidates, etc. from the Spin Room after the debate...FYI

Anonymous said...

It is not uncommon for companies to monitor company e-mail, i.e. making sure things are business-related and such. I suppose it would be their right to reprimand employees since they "own" that turner.com e-mail address and it is to be used for business only.

jr said...

@Anon 5:51PM: You are absolutely right about company-owned emails and I think companies have all the rights in the world to monitor them.

It's interesting because at my place of employment, people will use their company emails to send out invites to parties, etc. and I would not think anything about it. However, if someone was communicating to me via company email and they were being sexually explicit, well, I think that is drawing the line. Afterall, most of the email exchanges I read on that blog could be considered work related because Jeff was talking about places he was going to and reports he was doing.

The whole email, instant messaging, and blogging world does make you think twice before clicking that "submit" button doesn't it?

Anonymous said...

anon 6:17: not even being sexually explicit, assuming this is true which I don't think is, this budding romance between Anderson and a co-worker, even if they weren't being sexually explicit but obvious they were romancing each other, that is not appropriate for company e-mail and I would believe grounds for some sort of reprimanding, even just a simple cut it out.

And I think Anderson is smart enough to know better than to use company e-mail for that.

ivy said...

@jr

I agree, we might never know the truth, as for emails being real or made up I couldn't care less. Regardless, the cornerstone of that blog and everything related it is promoting her book and connecting with Oprah, so the motives make everything questionable at the very least. That woman doesn't seem to worry about going lower then low, and dragging ac's name in this, in similar context, seems to be for no other purpose then to attract more attention to herself. There better be nothing of the kind popping up about him. So I don't want to give her more attention then she already got.

The debate started and I'm watching -)

CASSIE MACKIN said...

Let's face it folks! Anderson is not wooing any female at CNN.

HAPPY 4OTH BIRTHDAY, ANDERSON!

Anonymous said...

@cassie thanks, finally a voice of reason

jr said...

I thought the Presidential Debate was good. Wolf did a great job at moderating. However, it was a bit chaotic after the debate when Anderson and Larry King were interviewing candidates but they finally got their stuff together.

I thought Joe Biden did the best but then again, he is a 2nd. tier candidate.

Anderson does such a great job at not showing his hand or preference for a candidate. I often wonder who he is leaning towards.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Mmmm... didn't watch it, myself. Was too busy trying not to kill myself while riding in the rain.

Maybe there will be highlights of it? And yeah, jr- one of Anderson's many talents is his ability to not show which way he is leaning.

Take that any way you want.

Anonymous said...

Stalker boi moment here: There is a picture posted on All Things Anderson courtesy of Anthony. Somebody please tell me that this is not the person I think it is.

I'll leave it at that.

Anonymous said...

I need to clarify my prior post on Anthony's picture from the debate: it mentions he got it from somewhere on the internet so it does not appear to me he was there. Guess all it means is he is still lurking if this is the same guy.

Guess we don't need to debate this guy anymore or give him further attention. Sorry.

Anonymous said...

Nigeria Charged Koinange Paid Rebels for News

http://www.maynardije.org/columns/dickprince/070604_prince/

anonymousaba said...

Brilliance, intuition, a strong sense of ESP is great. We still might have difficulty assessing a tv personality. A person we see is an image that could be lightly to severely fabricated by that person we're watching. That goes for Jeff and Anderson. If this were not the case, assumed winners would not be one day tagged as a loser. It's so easy to make a conclusion when we're not invited inside. I don't know about you, but I prefer to be judged on all fronts by those who know me personally. Looks are very deceiving. Well, they sure can be. The Devil wears Prada, but so do some nice people, poor people, rich people; some are successful, others sweep floors for a living. We just don't know until we know the person.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

A person we see is an image that could be lightly to severely fabricated by that person we're watching.

ABSOLUTELY!

What you see and what you get is almost never the truth in today's world, whether it be someone on TV or someone you meet in the library. So many are not who they present themselves to be. My personal theory on that one is that people are afraid to be themselves from fear of others not liking who they truly are.

Anonymous said...

To summarize, how can you judge someone you have never met?

Anonymous said...

Cooperite says goodbye to the Anderworld and Christiane disappears.
Cooperite=Christiane! OY!

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Anon 7:04- who are you summarizing? Me or anonymousaba? I mean, I completely agree with you- you can't judge someone you've never met... but you can sure hypothesize the merry hell out of it... which I just did on my own blog. Personally I think I'm rather good at gleaning something from nothing, but then again, I could be wrong. I doubt it.

Anon 1:17- Christiane is NOT Cooperite. She has a JOB, you know!!

Anonymous said...

Christiane is caucasian. Correct? Christiane doesn't have dreds (in her hair). Correct?
If so, I can guarantee you all, Christiane ain't the infamous Cooperite!

ivy said...

@1:17
christiane never said goodbye to the blog, and she actually has a life. Read her previous post, if that doesn't tell you anything I don't know what would -)

@anonimous aba- I agree, it's silly judging a character of somebody you mainly know from the tv or press, it's like making conclusions about an actor's personality from the roles he plays. It's probably best not to judge even people we know but not close with, we don't fully know what's behind the surface. Judging somebody's actions - politicians, ect. is a different thing I guess, has more to do with profesisonalism, ethics or certain traits rather then assuming their personal character.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

I need to be smacked. I couldn't help it!! I went and looked at the SQUEE BLOG because I heard that on Monday June 4th, Anderson was royally embarrassed by his mother because he turned forty. I figured if anyone would have the clips, THAT blog would. Well, yeah. And it was very funny. Gloria was all serious (telling him to eat. Yeah, all of us told him to eat TOO!!!) and that's what was so funny I guess... he was trying to slouch down in his chair, lol. Plus he kept laughing. I'm sorry, but I have to admit that I like his laugh. He makes me laugh because HIS laugh is cute.

Like I said, someone please slap me... I don't even have cable any more and I haven't seen 360 except for clips and the Podcast. Bummer :( Ah... well. Anderson might be forty but he sure as hell doesn't look like it!!

ivy said...

sharla -the clip is on freaktv on youtube

ivy said...

If anybody missed it you can watch it here, it was really funny.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

MAN!!!! I wish I'd thought of that. Duh. I mean, I had to go wash my laptop off after I poked around that other (drooling, fawning, pukey) blog.

My fav clip is the one with his mother. She is so awesome. Now THAT is someone I'd love to meet. I'd probably end up on the floor, clutching my stomach, and gasping for breath because she would undoubtedly crack me up. The next time I see a cardboard cutout of Anderson I'm going to start laughing because of her little speech....

anonymousaba said...

Sharla, Ivy, etc., what were you thinking when you heard GV say:

But you would really make me happy if you would do something in the next year.
COOPER: Oh, no.

Did you actually think she would say this:

VANDERBILT: I would like you to eat more, because you're very skinny and very handsome, but I would like to see...

I didn't.
**___**

Anonymous said...

Is Larry King jealous of Anderson Cooper's air time? LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bL-FuhuLZY

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Hmmm... anon 4:44- she wants him to get married! LOL. Thought that was obvious. That would explain why he tried to hide under his desk!!!!

The very skinny comment surprised me because I didn't think she'd say something that personal, so directly, right on the air. But the side shot of the cutout and her talking to it? Hysterical.

Anonymous said...

Gloria should talk about being skinny, she was thin when she was younger and Anderson said all they had in the house were those fancy crackers.

Maybe that is where he got his obsession with being skinny from.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Anderson has a talent for exaggeration in my opinion. There was probably cheese, too.

Anonymous said...

Sharla: I made the 7:04 post. I wasn't responding to anyone in particular. Perhaps I could have phrased it better.

Just meant to say that we cannot fairly judge a person we have never met.

I don't think Anderson is too skinny, he has good arm and pec muscles, nice waistline, he may have scrawny legs but maybe he's been working them out and there are muscles there.

I just can't picture him with a thicker waistline and I think he looks good now. Perhaps before he started working out he had that scrawny little kid look, and he does seem to have a small build.

ivy said...

@anonimousaba

I didn't expect that she'll tell him to eat,(and so did erica) but I knew to expect anything from Gloria -lol She's great. the funniest thing was that side shot of the cardboard cutout. Anderson seemed to get a kick out her talking to his cardboord copy -lol Afterall, weren't cardboard cutouts of missing anchors in fashion on ABC's World News Now?-)

sydney said...

@anon 4:56 I love Larry, but the senile old coot should consider himself lucky to have been there at all. Political analysis is not his forte - he needs to stick to interviewing celebrities. The simple fact is Anderson got more airtime because, recent milestone birthday not withstanding, he's half Larry's age and 100X more coherent.

Anderson has blogged about the debate tonight. I submitted a comment that was completely on topic, not the least bit fawning, and not signed by some variation of "ann", which of course will guarantee it won't get posted.

Anonymous said...

That's right, Sydney. You want to get posted on the blog, you gotta be named ANN. Preferably BettyAnn or LorieAnn. You know, a name that screams oldie moldie, is eons old and is often the namesake of a favorite nun at the local convent. If that won't work, verbally salivate all over your post. That should do it.

ivy said...

@sydney
I was also quite puzzled they have Larry moderating with Anderson they would rather have John King or John Roberts as moderators, somebody dynamic who specializes in politics. I'm watching republican debates now, some of it just raises my blood pressure. But there're plenty of moments for comedy central -)

Lee said...

I was surprised at Larry's comment. I suspect some people at CNN are jealous of Anderson but I would never have thought Larry was one of them.

Ivy, I'm trying to watch the Republican debate, too, but I'm having trouble paying attention. It's just the same rhetoric that we've been hearing from them for years.

jr said...

Oh yeah, the Anderson B-Day talk by his mama was classic and humorous! Kelly Ripa wasn't half bad either!

Let's just thank our stars that they didn't showcase Betty Ann or Lorie Ann for an Anderson B-day wish because we all know that both of them were sitting at home watching and squealing the whole time! Oh...and how much you wanna bet they are both surfing the internet trying to get their hands on cardboard Anderson!

I'm also finding it interesting that there hasn't been much activity on the AC360 blog these past few days....perhaps Lorie Ann and Betty Ann are on vacation. I can't imagine that they would be getting shunned from that blog but maybe there is a God and they are finally cutting them off. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

As much as I love watching LKL, he looked tired and grumpy on Sunday which made me wonder where was Paula Zahn? How come she got out of going?

Is it me or do you get the impression sometimes that even Anderson doesn't want to be in New Hampshire covering this debate?

I'm watching the debate right now. I enjoyed the democratic one better but it's been okay.

Anonymous said...

Seems that Larry took charge during the small intermission tonight. He was telling everyone what to do. Personally tonight's debate is giving me a migraine and Larry just added to it.

My real middle name is Anne, but I never use it when I reply to the blog. When I try to be cute and fawn over everyone I do seem to get posted once in awhile, but my serious posts seem to get posted more. BA & LA get on my nerves, wonder what their non fans at 360 think of them.

ivy said...

@hi, lee -)

Larry is not appropriate as the post-Debate discussion moderator period, IMHO, even less him complaining having less airtime, if he did that. There were some interesting things in this debate, yeah, most of it is the same talking points, but I forget how crazy or funny some of those talking points can be -)

Lee said...

JR. I think maybe the 360 blog moderator has been paying closer attention to what's posted. A couple of the comments were pretty good today. I loved Marcia's comment about Michael Ware. He has a better understanding of the situation in Iraq than any politian.

Lee said...

Hi, Ivy

Yes, there were some interesting things but several things really annoyed me. First, I don't know why everybody is so concerned about making English the official language. We should be encouraging Americans to learn other languages. We are so far behind the rest of the world in language training. Also, every one of them supported leaving the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy in place. One of my former coworkers was the first officer to challenge the policy. I can tell you that it's horrible to have to sit by and watch a well-liked and respected colleague's career destroyed for no reason.

I do agree with a lot of the comments on the Democrats' health care plans. I don't know how it is now but when I lived in England, the NHS had major problems.

Anonymous said...

Someone wondered how Paula Zahn got out of going to New Hampshire?

Thought I read her contract with CNN is up this month. Perhaps with her low ratings she will be out? It's like, why bother?

Anonymous said...

COOPERITE IS JENNIFER, JENNIFER IS CHRISTIAN RUSSELL, NOW CHRISTIANE!

Anonymous said...

a "source" told me that Christiane is in New Hampshire

jr said...

Did you see the commercial that CNN will be sponsoring another Democratic debate in conjunction with YouTube? The public will be able to submit questions via YouTube videos. This sounds very interesting!

On the CNN Political Ticker, they posted an observation between Sunday's Democratic Debate and today's Republican Debate. On Sunday, the crowd was huge waiting in anticipation for the doors to open. Tonight's debate, there were only a few dozen people waiting for the doors to open. Eventually the crowd turned up but they were calm and collected as they walked in.

The post asked the question:

Is this a reflection of what we’re seeing at the polls? That Democrats are energized about this election, while Republicans are still waiting for something to be really excited about?


I thought this was interesting.

Anonymous said...

@jr a friend of mine use to be part of th Republican party in our state. She told me she would get calls at the last minute to show up for rallies or debates because the first stringers wouldn't want to go. Finally she just told them forget it and basically quit working for them, but when Dubya got into office she quit the party all together. Maybe the people who went tonight were missing something better on FAUX.

jr said...

@Anon 10:30PM: Hmmm......Faux eh? Wasn't paying attention...was there something better on Faux? My Dad went through a similar experience with the Rebublican party in his state and he eventually told them to forget it. They can get rather pesky!

Anderson just made a comment that his panel arguing just now was the most excitement he's seen tonight!

They just showed the Rudy Giuliani lightening incident during tonight's debate. I thought that was the highlight!

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

I'm pretty sure that cardboard cutout is the one in the CNN store in New York's Time Warner Center. I wandered in there and OMG he scared the shit outta me because he was standing there. And it's the wrong size- I'm taller than he is, by a whole inch. Betty Ann... she should fly in from Texas and try to lift it from the store *grin* Then she can put in next to her bed and stare at it in the middle of the night. Or talk to it. Whatever.

As for the debates?? I HATE POLITICS. WITH A PASSION. I don't understand it, I don't WANT to understand it, and I wish everyone would just say what they mean straight out and stop the double-speak and underlying ulterior motives. Yes, when pigs fly.

Almost every single one of my comments gets posted on Dr. Gupta's blog. My comments on the 360 blog only got posted a few weeks ago when the moderator was in the back smoking crack. After that? Not anymore. I would fawn and drool except that I'm not a fawning drooler. I'm more like a blatant truth telling face slapper, even if I like the person. Actually I'm meaner when I DO like the person. Just yesterday I shredded Anderson to BITS. What. I was trying to be helpful!

ivy said...

@lee

"Don't ask don't tell" is ridiculous and honestly, I was surprised that NONE of the republicans today wanted to get rid of it. Hilary explained legal consequences of the language being official vs national the best a day ago, so there should be other way to make sure people do learn english. Healthcare is very difficult to change, but the way it's now is unacceptable. Most of Europe has a lot better and flexible system and better preventive medicine that's pretty much absent here. So many people who work aren't even insured and deal with outragious costs and low quality of service. It has to change and soon.

@jr -the lightning was perfect! Wolf was fast on his feet and so was Rudy-) the youtube questions is deffinately something new, funny anderson had to say to keep it clean -)

jr said...

@Ivy: Oh yeah...keep it clean! Should be Anderson's new motto. I think I heard him say that he was going to be the moderator of that debate so it should be pretty cool then. However, he also said, be smart...I hope people don't take that as meaning "smartass".....

I sure would love to be on the panel reviewing those videos!

I like the concept and all and I could challenge myself to come up with a clean, smart question but there is no way I would video myself...just seems cheesy!

ivy said...

@jr

what do you bet that many of the videos they'll get will be the opposite of "smart and clean" lol. Glad they're not doing it in a live format -the youtube stream -lol. Anderson will be moderating next debates. Wolf did a good job, we'll see if Anderson can pull it off, especially with the new format. He's not new to it so it should be pretty interesting.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

I personally get that deer in the headlights look every time Anderson starts talking about politics. Actually when ANYONE starts talking about politics. I recognize the look on other people when I start talking about Chemistry!! Therefore I'm going to bed. I don't care whatever the hell they're talking about. I don't get to vote in the primaries anyway. I just get to pick whatever pathetic saps end up on the ballot. This year I think I'll do a write in candidate- how about "Satan" or "Marvin the Martian". Either one would work for me....

jr said...

@Ivy: I think Anderson would do a great job moderating a debate but I think this one in South Carolina on July 23rd. is targeting young Americans which is most likely why they put Anderson on as moderator.

I was watching CNN Pipeline tonight (cuz it was free) and they had a alternate view of the debate floor. When Larry King and Anderson were covering the post debate show, it was interesting to see how many people approached Anderson and asked for his autograph....as though he was a candidate also.

Hmmm....Anderson for President????

@Sharla Dawn: Sorry you don't like politics....I'm not so into the mud slashing but I am interested in the topics and the candidates viewpoints on those topics which is why I enjoy watching these debates. You should try it.....you just might enjoy it!!! Hee Hee!

anonymousana said...

jr, BettyAnn and LorieAnn are on a global mission to find an Anderson blow up doll (oops, I meant to say a cardboard AC)to sit with them as they blog. Because neither are gainfully employed, they must find a cardboard Anderson at a cheap price, too!

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

anonymousaba- I'm TELLING you, Betty Ann needs to fly up from Texas and steal the one from the CNN store! And she has a job. I know this because I am sneaky and all evil like that. As for Lori Ann I could care less. Betty Ann though... oy. She's invaded Dr. Gupta's blog too, like I pointed out somewhere else. AND, she had the NERVE to complain that my comments did not include "city and state", like they're supposed to (my last comment I invited her to join in with me to tell Anderson to get a healthy diet, and that was before Anderson's MOTHER said it, TYVM). You know, BETTY ANN, there are anonymous comments and they aren't supposed to do that either but they DO. Besides, I'm logged into Blogger when I comment and it links to my PROFILE. *jeez*

I think Betty Ann needs to turn off her television and find some real man that could put up with her AnderDrool and likes dogs (a lot). Of course, a blow up Anderson might thrill the hell out of her. You never know.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

LMAO.

I just put the rudest direct comment (but... I think I did it rather subtly!) straight at BETTY ANN on Dr. Gupta's Blog. OH MAN, I hope that gets posted. The post is about health care, B-A commented blah blah blah this happened to me and it totally is all about this post because I have done everything on the planet blah blah blah... and the first sentence of MY comment? Although I do not personally have a plethora of stories to tell that relate to every single post [blah blah blah about the topic]. You like? *grin* (She's driving me freaking crazy.)

anonymousaba said...

LOVE IT!!!!!!!I still maintain the opinion that the "job" BettyAnn allegedly has is in the past tense now. She HAD a job. As she HAD a man many moons ago and everything else she claims to once have HAD - such as abuse, toxic chemicals in her house and yard; centuries old relatives, money falling from the sky to donate to every cause. It's all what she allegedly HAD. She also states that her heart bleeds for every cause as she sits glued to her couch watching hours upon hours of news reports. As for BAnn herself, about the only thing she HAS is an ongoing production of saliva and a large wedge in her couch from sitting and watching Anderson.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

It's called a BUTT DENT.

And my comment got posted *snicker*

sydney said...

Zing! That's too funny. I wondered where BA wandered off to (well, not really) since I hadn't seen much of her on the 360 blog. I can actually stomach reading comments now, although there are hardly any to read. Maybe the moderator passed out. :-)

Although I watch some of the post-debate analysis since I find some of the commentators interesting, I can't stand to watch the debates themselves. I'm an Independent, so I can't vote in the primaries anyway. So there isn't much point in my paying too much attention until we're down to 2. All the blah blah blah rhetoric and doublespeak gives me a headache.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

New Jersey is weird. I don't think I can vote in the primaries because there wasn't anywhere to even declare a party! HEY! I'm a DEMOCRAT! OVER HERE!!! Geez.

oooh.... Betty Ann just read my blog like five minutes ago. I bet she comes over here next- OMFG. She'll have a damn coronary! Someone call Anderson and get the defibrillator he has strapped to his body!

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

On second thought I think Betty Ann will be voting for Anderson to just be present when she collapses so that he can give her mouth to mouth.

anonymousaba said...

YES!YES! You set a rodent trap for BettyPoopAnn and she snatched it. Calling over the mold BettyAnn, we can't wait to SEE you! A coronary you say? I think it'll be her very first $%#!*&.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Honestly I think I threw up in my mouth a little.

One of my comments got posted on the 360 blog (when pigs fly! OMG!), and I just commented to Randi, and HOLY MOLY guess who was already there blathering on about how WONDERFUL 360 was and how SPECIAL they are to CARE and ALL THAT STUPID SHIT.

Someone.please.mail.me.some.Tums.

sydney said...

It's not quite Tums, but it might make you feel better - on the post in between Anderson's and Randi's, another commentator gives BA hell!

I'm still a little peeved that I didn't get posted, especially since I submit a comment so rarely, only when I feel I have something to really contribute to the discussion at hand. Oh well, looking back it may have been a little too long and critical, but I gotta be me... (breaks into corny song)

sydney said...

Oooh, wait, just don't read the last comment on that post - you'll get sick again!!

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Actually Sydney the "BETTY ANN YOU'RE A MORON" comment is on the post right UNDER Randi's post. Yes I saw it. And you know how you said you wondered if the moderator was sleeping (due to lack of comments being posted)? Well, no. I think that the crack they smoked ate a bunch of their neurons. I mean, half the time they post stupid shit (fawning, drooling, salivating...) or the commenters bashing each other (the one we are talking about HERE), or a DUPLICATE comment, or comments TO each other, or, or, or... and the intelligent comments? I think they shove THOSE right up their collective asses to use as constipation relief. Since, you know, they aren't posting them.

And CNN guys? I know you read this. Seriously FIRE THE MODERATOR or something. Or at least get one that isn't smoking pot.

sydney said...

"Actually Sydney the "BETTY ANN YOU'RE A MORON" comment is on the post right UNDER Randi's post."

Yes, the one under Randi's is above Anderson's, and is therefore BETWEEN Randi's and Anderson's (or am I missing something?)

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Oh, no. I read it wrong. I think I got slightly confused because above Randi's post is another one about the candidates and God. I commented I thought they were all idiots.

Since the moderator is smoking pot, they might post it. I want Anderson to read THAT on the air *grin*

sydney said...

Oh, and actually I wondered if the moderator was "passed out". I should've made it clear I was thinking "due to excessive drug use" rather than "sleepiness".

sydney said...

I'll keep my eyes peeled for ya' - I'd shit if Anderson read one of my comments on air. On the up side, I guess I don't ever have to worry about that! :-)

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Let's see... roofies, crack cocaine, heroin, pot, crystal meth, ecstasy, opiates, oxycontin, ritalin, jack, vodka, sniffing glue... hmmm. Could be any of the above.

I think I know too many drug addicts.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

He read mine twice. The first time I nearly passed out, the second time I went into a hysterical fit of the giggles.

Really. Like I was a twelve year old girl with a crush and the boy I liked said hi to me.

You remember passing the note in class? "Do you like me? Check yes or no". LMAO

sydney said...

"You remember passing the note in class? "Do you like me? Check yes or no". LMAO"

Ah, memories. We were just talking about this at work today. We have a couple of "kids" working for us for the summer and they were talking about texting in class. I said "oh, it's like passing notes. Does the teacher take your cell phone and ask 'something you'd like to share with the class' and read your texts out loud?" They looked at me like I was talking about turntables or something.

Somedays I just feel really old...

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

LOL! Yeah! "Would you like to share that with the class?"

Why certainly, Mrs. Smith! "Mrs. Smith has stinky feet and rotten teeth."

There ya go. Fifth grade...

My fifth grader wants a cell phone. I believe I said, "Over my cold, stiff, bloated, smelly, and very dead corpse." I'm so graphic :)

Anonymous said...

Anderson has already read two of my posts twice on the air. Does that give me bragging rights?

Anonymous said...

I agree completely with Betty Ann's intelligent, well spoken response.

I don't want to know the guy who wrote this.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

anon 7:21- you and I are tied. However, the Anns have us totally beat.

I'm bummed to say that my last two comments didn't make it up yet :( Dammit! I really want Anderson to read mine on the air! I called all the candidates idiots! It's priceless, priceless!!

cassie mackin said...

This blog reminds me of the time last year when the "Anderson Cooper Effects" blog wasn't updated for over a month and the comments continued to add up to over 1000!

marie said...

Getting a wee bit crowded in here. :) I already sent a text to Chris informing her of the 100+ posts on this thread.

Like Sharla, my eyes tend to glaze over when the subject turns into politics and sometimes history (depends on subject) will cause the same reaction.

Now if you start talking about biology, general chemistry, organic chemistry, physics, calculus, etc...then you will have my undivided attention.

So, anyone want to discuss stoichiometry such as redox reactions? Or how about getting some 12M HCl acid and using it to make a solution? :)

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

I see you're learning to create and manage solutions, Marie! And I already got yelled at for talking science over here.

We're talking about Anderson!

And the Anns.

But Anderson! Awwww... mommy's little boy. Oh wait, that annoyed me. Hrpmh. I have one hell of an opinion what I think of little Mr. Cooper at the moment.... I'll attempt to hold my tirade in. I already let it out on my own blog so I shouldn't really scream about it over here....

ivy said...

@cassie
You must remember what happened to ACE after that. Luckily this blog is more civilized and hope commenters will keep it that way -)

@jr -I wonder how fast those who don't care about main political delevopements and voting would show live interest if there's a draft and their loved ones might be sent to die in some senseless war.

Anonymous said...

when the "Anderson Cooper Effects" blog wasn't updated for over a month and the comments continued to add up to over 1000!

That was classic! A lot of strange but interesting stuff about Anderson and his fans came out in that thread.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Strange and interesting stuff about his fans? OMG I'm afraid to know. Some of those people are straight up fucked in the head, that's all I can say. I'm not exactly attacking his fan base, but um, yeah, I sort of am. I just think it's SO ODD that a new anchor has a fan base like this. If he were a celebrity in the traditional sense, oh no, I can see THAT (hellloooooo, he's GORGEOUS) but as for being a journalist? It really shouldn't be there. It's his obvious vulnerability and coyness that brings people to him in droves, not his outstanding talent as a journalist. Actually I don't think he's very good at it. OOOOOoooh yes, I just said that.

Of course, his credibility is being rapidly flushed down the loo more and more each day. I think he has the wrong job, I really do. It doesn't suit him at ALL.

marie said...

I learned all those chem stuff already. In regards to general chem classes, the first semester was more of a pain in the butt than second...for me at least. Organic was easy.

As for AC, I first saw him back in high school and I thought he was a dork. Yes, I did just say that... Ok, since he is a nice guy and a big fan of this blog, I will leave it at that. :)

Seriously though, I think he does a pretty decent job and the only time Anderson bores me is when he starts talking about politics..like I said before, that subject is s snoozer for me.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Hey Marie- it's not a "snoozer" for me, it's just that I DON'T GET IT. I commented on the 360 blog that I get the deer in the headlights look. Actually people give ME that look when I start talking science so I usually shut up.

Well, if Anderson is a big fan of this blog (and uh, I actually know that to be factual), then I hope he wanders over to mine. I've had quite a few things to say to him over there and I really have no idea how to get the message to him, although I'd like to. If you're curious what I said, have a look. That post is the nice one. This is the mean one. That mean one is pretty much going into depth on what we touch on over here, about his faults.

I don't really know what else to do to myself, other than pretty much bare my soul over on my own page. I've been having a hard time- friends of my friends dying, shit exploding over here, all that sort of thing... eh. I just need to hear some nice stuff for once. Freaks is a great blog, certainly. But those two posts of mine- hey, have free reign over there people. I could care less what you say, I'm just interested to know people's thoughts on it.

Anonymous said...

not his outstanding talent as a journalist. Actually I don't think he's very good at it. OOOOOoooh yes, I just said that.

What about Anderson do you find appealing or interesting if you don't think he's a good journalist?

wretched old beef bone said...

Anderson must enjoy getting slapped around a lot if he likes this blog. That's not a criticism, just an observation.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

anon 4:23- I find him interesting like a (really pretty) butterfly under a magnifying glass, that's why.

And by "not really good at it", I'm referring to his STYLE, not as to whether or not he's a good interviewer (he is). He's so unconventional I don't know what to make of him half the time. I like to watch him because of that, and because he's quirky, and odd, and funny, and just inspirational to say the least. I like his field reporter, and I don't like his anchoring. Why? Because as a field reporter he's allowed to be unscripted, and THAT'S what I like to see. Standing in front of the teleprompter and just sort of... reading... I don't like it, not from him. That's why I like the Erica Hill parts- he just looks at his monitor and talks to her.

Wretched old beef bone- I doubt he likes being slapped around. Who doesn't like constructive criticism on their job? People who don't want to be better at it, I'd say.

Anonymous said...

@sharla

from what you said you appear to belong to the "fanbase" you critisize, that isn't drawn to him due to his work. You don't "get" politics that he covers extensively, admittedly don't or can't watch his show for a while (and know his credibility evaporating "every day") and not of a very high opinion of his journalistic skills in general (which is fine, it's a matter of opinion). I'm not sure if you ment a bad job fit for him being a journalist or being a prime time cnn news anchor.

@jr and anonimousaba
I wonder what you make of obama using anderson as an example of media forgetting NOLA. Obviously 360 did have reports from there consistently, but it's even more puzzling considering AC will moderate the next debate on CNN. Somebody set himself up for a nice grill -)

ivy said...

oops, that was my comment 5:06

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Ivy. Don't you DARE call me a fangurl. I am NOT interested in his looks, although they distract the hell out of me. I am interested in him as a person. His journalistic skills ARE LACKING. I could not do it better, no way. I'm not a journalist either. I am way too opinionated.

I read the transcripts. I read this blog and no others. I think he has the WRONG JOB and I've said so many times. I don't get politics because I DON'T GET POLITICS. I try my best to follow along. I'd like to see YOU understand the complicated shit I look at every day in the field of science. Everyone has their different forte, correct? I like Anderson and that's why I have the interest, period. I don't particularly like his show, either. Klein massacred it, I don't care that people say it got better.

His credibility is suffering because he's way too personal. He talks about his personal life on the air but then says... he doesn't talk about it. His mother shows up and they have a birthday party for him. What is this, a talk show? Or a news broadcast? I couldn't even tell anymore and therefore I refuse to watch. Like I said- I find Anderson interesting as a person and that's why I'm over here talking about him.

And the WRONG JOB comment? He's a bad fit for an anchor. He's much better as a field reporter I guess you'd like me to expound on that. He's better because he relates to people very well and they want to talk to him. He's better because he's empathetic and caring and people are drawn to it. He's better because he's funny as hell when he just blurts out whatever the fuck he's thinking. He's better because he's just HIM.

anonymousaba said...

I think Obama tells it as he sees it. That's not to say he doesn't like Anderson's brand of reporter. The sentiment on the streets of Chicago after Anderson did his expose a la bridge over troubled waters, is that it was one-sided and falsified for all but a small pocket of the city. He failed to paint other municipalities, such as NYC, in a similar light. While I think some people got on their high horse saying that Obama was combative and cruel, I don't see it that way at all. I think Barack was trying to relay to Anderson in a roundabout fashion that he, like Chicago, has good points and not so good points. Anderson has let up on NOLA a bit. He doesn't go there to report nearly as often. Yeah, Obama dug and poked, but so did Anderson. As much as I like Anderson's style, I was offended and appalled by his two Chicago reports. I thought they were both sloppy, fluffy,lacked credibility and shined a red light on Chicago that wasn't deserved. Obama adores Chicago. His kids attend school in Chicago. They enjoy everything the city has to offer.

Anonymous said...

I like Anderson's field reporting and his anchoring. Even when he anchors he sometimes slips in an odd remark that allows his personality to break through.

Obama needed a good bitchslap from AC. Throwing Anderson's in his speech was nothing but a cheap shot and shows how little he knows about what's going on down there.

Anonymous said...

It seems to me that someone needed to say something about 28 kids (now 30) who have been killed in a school district. AC was right about how if it were a white district, people would be up in arms. I'd never heard of what was taking place in Chicago before 360 highlighted it. I'm sure Chicago isn't the only place where this type of violence in schools is taking place, but I don't think it's a bad thing that someone wants to focus on what's happening there even if some think the reports are flawed.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Yes, that's what I was saying- even as an anchor, when he "slips" in something, as YOU said- that's the part that's good. Like when he's talking to Erica, he's just funny and goofy and just being himself. He's not a serious person I don't know why he tries. And he's said quite a few things off the top of his head that are hysterical but work against him- for example "I like the naughty chair", "is that a frog in your pocket or are you happy to see me" and on his blog, talking about sleeping in his clothes and not having a toothbrush. While all of that is FUNNY, as an ANCHOR it doesn't belong. PERIOD.

Anonymous said...

@sharla
so you have it as a fact that Anderson reads this blog? SPILL IT

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

ISPs are cool. I'm all evil like that, I'm telling you. Technology and I, are great friends. Why do you think I scared the hell out of Stalker Boi?

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Oh. And common sense is all that's needed to figure that CNN probably monitors all the various blogs about Anderson (or anyone else). Since I don't actually have access to this blog's stats (I'm not a mod, remember?) I'm pretty much using my brain here. Plus, well, stuff I can't say. Now I'm sure you're salivating over what I know but I'm mum on that one. Don't ask, don't tell- ain't that the military way?

Anonymous said...

That makes sense that CNN reads the blogs. In taht case don't you think they were aware of Stalker Boi?

ivy said...

@sharla
no need to overreact. Where did I call you a "fangirl"? I didn't critisize or mention any reasons why you might be drawn to him. You were critical of the fact that most interested in him not as a journalist but for other reasons and then next sentence is that you don't see him as a good journalist and that that's not the right fit for him. I only pointed that out. Read that post over. And no, no need to go into more detail about job fit. You think he' s better off as a field reporter then an anchor, I first thought you were talking jourtnalism in general is a bad fit, that's why I asked.

I agree news anchor in this format is the best fit for him either. I didn't argue with him not being the best in his field, so no need to be defensive. In my opinion interviews is actually his weak spot, he knows that 60 minutes is a good place for him to get better at it. And interestingly, empathy and "blurting out" on air part is what some consider a sign of not being a good journalist. Well, he has a long way to go but IMHO potential is there.

Anon 5:44 said...

Is it true the mod of this blog knows Anderson? I read it somewhere. Some people believe it others don't. What is the truth?

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

There is probably some bored person in the back of CNN leisurely poking around, rolling their eyes at the drooling/fawning/retarded behavior of some people, looking surprised at the criticisms, and generally looking for threats.

I, personally, could care less who may or may NOT be reading. I'm still going to say what I think and so should you. It's possible that Anderson reads it, sure. He's got internet access! But he's probably busy as hell, don't you think? Maybe for a pick-me-up on a bad day he'd go look at the pukey blogs to feel better. He'd have to be in one hell of a good mood before he came over here, I'd say. But anyone who wants to read their critics opinions and better themselves, is likely to do so. Since I don't know Anderson personally I cannot guess whether or not he'd have a look. I just ponder the possibility that he probably does. Like I said... he's got internet access, you know.... I'm sure John King googles himself too. So does Erica. I've googled MYSELF to see what would come up.

And yeah, they were most likely aware of Stalker Boi. I said somewhere that he sticks out like a twinkie in the diet aisle of the health food store. I just rather enjoyed harassing the hell out of him and making him GO AWAY.

Anon 5:44 said...

Is this a "plant blog" commissioned by the PR Department at Time Warner? how this blog gets so much "exclusive" and "different" information that other blogs don't get?

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

@ivy- I'm only defensive because of arguing with you for hours on the IM. And um, I like you and I hate arguing. Peace?

Actually I was talking to like four people on the IM just then, I think I'm brain fried. I'm going to go ride around New Jersey now... I'm very curious the conversation that will take place while I'm gone. *I love this blog*

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

If this were a plant blog they'd never ever ever post my comments because I'm super duper critical and bitchy, don't you think?

Exclusive, different, personal contacts with Anderson? Dunno. And if I did, I wouldn't tell you *grin* which, you know, implies that I might. Man, I am enjoying this. Cheese in that mouse trap, anyone?

ivy said...

@sharla

well, then you must know I can challenge what doesn't seem to add up -) So don't mind me saying my opinion just like you say yours. It's a blog to share views, we all have different ones, and I will repond to posts I like, object to or question regardless of who I'm friendly with or talk to elsewhere. Please dont' take it as a personal attack.

You said something about being "factual" and isps and I remember in one of past threads you mentioned sometihng about who's watching and brought a blackberry as an example. And you were told that many people use blackberry not just anderson. I hope you're not basing the "facts" on the same thing. If it's something other then isp you don't have to tell-) I see you already say you don't actually know and don't care, so let's leave it at that -)

Anon 5:44 said...

Can anyone tell me if Christiane really knows Anderson?

Anonymous said...

He probably is turned off by blogs that dedicated to him, whether they are positive and suck up or quick to criticize and mock him. If he reading blogs, it's probably Huffington Post, Salon, Daily Kos and other political or media related blogs. He doesn't seem all that interested in any of his fans. He never mentions them when he gives interviews or any other time. And they are not ALL crazy, stalkery, fangirly types either. He deals with his fans at book signings and is very gracious, but it doesn't seem like he's the tiniest bit curious about them or what they think about him. He probably thinks as a journalist-anchor that he shouldn't even HAVE fans, only viewers.

Anon 5:44 said...

Can anyone tell me if Christiane really knows Anderson?

Anon 5:44 said...

Can anyone tell me if Christiane really knows Anderson?

ivy said...

@anon 5:44 Why don't you ask the moderator directly? I can only guess what her answer will be. Your questions might even remain rhetorical -lol

@anonimouisaba

That's an interesting perspective. I look at that show as bringing attention to the problem in general and taking chicago as an example. I don't think brining attention to it is a bad thing, the problem is there. They did say that in general the city got cleaned up like new york did and that crime is down. Agree that they could go a lot more in depth, and make a lot of things clearer.

Maybe ac haven't been as many times in Nola lately but they have correspondents there and he does use them to bring reports. There's no need for him to go there all the time. In all fairness, there's probably been more attention to NOLA on his show then on most others, aside from Williams.

So seems like Obama is mad at chicago special but targeting a journalist for something he isn't that guilty of (less then many others for sure). That doesn't look good to me at all, IMHO. One more proof that politics is a dirty business.

Anon 5:44 said...

Can anyone tell me if Christiane really knows Anderson?

ivy said...

@anon 5:44 we saw that already. Just don't loose your sleep over it.

@anon 7:02 -I agree. Something tells me, however, CNN PR wants HIM to have fans, not his show.

marie said...

Sharla Dawn Jones said...
"Plus, well, stuff I can't say. Now I'm sure you're salivating over what I know but I'm mum on that one. Don't ask, don't tell- ain't that the military way?"
-----------------------------------
Sharla, I think the quote you are looking for is "loose lips, sink ships." :)

marie said...

@anon 5:44
This is not a "plant blog."

sydney said...

Just my 2 cents: While I would never go so far as to say he's a bad anchor (because I do enjoy watching him) I agree wholeheartedly that he's much better at field reporting. To me that's where he really shines.

Anonymous said...

@Sharla Dawn,

May I ask why you post your own personal photo on the blog? It tends to dominate the visual affect and is bluntly, rather annoying.

Anonymous said...

anon 9:45,

Are you one of the following:

1. Anthony aka "Stalker Boi"

2. Libby aka "Blog Reject"

3. Robin aka "Pumpkin Ho"

or are you just a "Dumbshit Troll"?

It does not really matter who you are, so take your meds and STFU, cunt!

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

anon 9:45- I post it because I think I'm cute.

marie said...

@anon 9:45

My face is on the front of this blog and so is Chris'. My picture is also a lot bigger than the thumbnail icon blogger uses!

I say you got what you deserve, showing up at someone else's blog trying to cause problems!

anonymousaba said...

Politics certainly is dirty, Ivy. I think Obama might have sent that absurd dig to AC as a rebuttal to AC's Chicago expose. The blocks AC reported on is less than 1% of the area considered Chicago proper. As much as we love NYC, Chicago has it beat in cleanliness and safety. There's alot of successful schools in the City. Most are not as poor as the area he reported on. It's tough to regulate a community where unemployment is rampant, yet residents have money for drugs and firearms. It's difficult for a politician to teach a 15 yr old mom with 3 kids to think using her brain. Morals, character, values, it's just not there. Obama sees miles of Chgo neighborhood success stories, many of them minorities like himself. Anderson not caring about NOLA is as ridiculous as the political leaders not carung about Chicago. Both have their strenghts and weaknesses.

anon 9:45, if you're envious of Sharla's beauty, I'm sure there are other blogs with unattractive posters and incognito fans.

anon 5:45, whatever you assume is probably the correct answer.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

AWWWWWwww, anonymousaba, thank you! "I feel pretty! I feel pretty! I feel pretty and witty and bright!!"

Sound of Music.

jr said...

Geez, I'm away from this blog for a day and it explodes!!!

Seems like the whole Obama soundbite about Anderson is creating a lot of passion today!

I was disappointed that Obama would "name call" like a 5th. grade school boy in a speech. But guess what, that's politics folks! Political opinions often end in mud slinging but to start throwing mud this early in the game and at a media anchor to boot seemed low to me.

However, I believe Obama said it to make a point and for those of us who watch AC360, the point was confusing but for those who don't watch AC360 or even know who Anderson is, the point was simply that, a point and a bad one at that, IMHO. That Obama would tie the issues of NOLA and the Mississippi coast to how many times an anchor/reporter has covered the story in the past year is a mute point to me.

@Ivy: Interesting thought about the upcoming CNN debate. Even though Anderson seemed a bit annoyed at Obama, he said what he said and got it off his chest and has probably forgot about it already (men are good about those things).

I have no doubt that Anderson will moderate that debate fairly and he will be respectful towards Obama and all the other candidates. I actually think this debate will be cool, just hope they weed out all of the fangirl videos! I can't help but think that Betty Ann will be all over this one!

I love Chicago but 30 kids killed is a big # so I'm not surprised that AC360 (and NBC) highlighted it. I, myself, wondered why these killings were never mentioned even through the Chicago-based media. We can argue until the cows come home on whether it could have been covered in more of a 360 view, but, facts are facts...it's a total of 30 people now...wow! And you can bet your socks that AC will not forget about this story either!

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Oh dear god, someone on Datalounge just linked my blog. They quoted me directly, called me an idiot, and my blog stats just exploded.

Um.

Maybe I shouldn't have sat there and talked about the uh, sexuality thing. YOU THINK?

Anonymous said...

I find it evident that Sharla Dawn has an incredible need for attention and validation. And no Marie, I am not one of the people that rejected you from the past.


From Anonymous 9:45 PM

Anonymous said...

LOL! Have a look!

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Yeah, I need lots of attention because I'm the coolest person on the planet, didn't you know?

And validation? Well, after all the hate mail I just got in about five seconds from the Datalounge visitors? Well, I think that's rather validating, don't you agree?

marie said...

@anon 9:45,

Did anon 11:29 hit a nerve?

Like I said before, "you reap what you sow."

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Fascinating. People can be so totally hateful towards a person that they don't even know, because I had the fucking balls to disagree with what they believe? And have the nerve to send me some pretty nasty shit? My email box needs to be sprayed with Lysol.

I'm really pissed I had to lock my blog now. I think someone seriously hates me. Gee I wonder who that could be? Umm.... let me think. Hmmmmmm..... hey YOU. BLOW ME.

Anonymous said...

Marie,

You are a pretty well known blogger. And, I even know your real name!

Anonymous said...

Sharla, you're always saying (like every four sentences, actually) how much you don't care what people think and how you always just say what's on your mind and how you want people to do the same to you. If you really believe that, stand by it now. No reason to flock your blog. Don't be ashamed of your thoughts, and for serious, screw those guys who are being all hateful to you for having them. Don't act like they've made you ashamed of yourself or your blog, or they win.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

You have a point.

Point taken. Blog unlocked. Can of Lysol at the ready.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

LMAO! Hey! I have fans on Datalounge that like me! Wow. I didn't know that. Never read DL before. Interesting pile of dog excrement!

And anon 12:59? I think I was momentarily freaked that people would be reading ALL about my personal life, including talking about suicide, my children, Anderson, love life, terrible awful life changing decisions... yeah. Well? You know what? Maybe in one of their twisted and sick little heads, they'll notice that I'm a real person and I happen to think all by myself and I don't follow everyone like a herd of cows.

jr said...

@Sharla: When all is said and done, people will respect the person who is honest with what they say and with themselves! Think about all the crap that is said about Anderson over the internet every damn day! Does it effect his reporting? Heck no!

Keep on doing what you do girl! I just think they are all jealous anyway!

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Thanks JR.

I think I just discovered why Anderson is so secretive and uh, never reads stuff that people say about him. I'm over here staring at my screen with my mouth open in shock at the hate. HOLY SHIT. And these people are Anderson's FANS? WTF is wrong with them? Are they all mental??!

Anonymous said...

Andertrolls always use Datalounge as an excuse to flame boards and blogs. The gays are TIRED OF THE HAUSFRAUS!

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

Um, german housewives? Isn't that what that means? Er-

And yeah... flames... I guess they've got nothing better to do. I get attacked all the time because I say whatever is on my mind, and people don't like it. This is just on a more... massive scale. As in, my blog stats just went x200 or something. I can't even follow it. Wow.

ivy said...

@Sharla - DL was a matter of time. Enjoy-)

@anon 9:45 - you probably prefer everybody to display pics of anderson or molly, there are enough other blogs where you can get that aesthetical satisfaction.

@anonimousaba

I totally agree with you about the comlexity of a problem and difficulty dealing with areas like that, but I did not see this story as representative of chicago in general. I agree with jr that the point was highlighting the issue. Especially if all the murders are limited to one or few areas, though localized, it makes the problem worse and not better.

AC caring or not about NOLA personally is not the issue. You might remeber Harry Shearer's column claiming he doesn't, Obama or his people might have read that. The issue here is that as a broadcaster AC and his show did talk about NOLA a lot and Obama's dig is not based on facts. After all, he's running for the highest office in the country

Anonymous said...

Datalounge is harmless. They read and are cool, just like to stare at the shit stirred by the Andertrolls. They hate the andertrolls!

BTW did you see what anderson said about the cyberstalking?

ivy said...

@jr

I was quite surprised about obama. Though It didn't make me cry like some commentors on ac fan blogs -)Though I understand it's politics, it's kind of low cause it's the wrong example to start with. The point could be made without dragging anybody's name in, especially baselessly. Anderson is a very easy target, even among media people, a lot easier then officials who's fault it is that things aren't going as well as they should.

Yes, debate is over a month away, and don't even start about men and thier memory *sigh* -) I'm sure Anderson will be professional either way. But I still say it's not smart to annoy a moderator -lol.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

anon 1:30- no! What did he say about the cyberstalking?? And when did he say it?

Anonymous said...

he was interviewing an author that sued a cyber stalker that was spreading things about her, he said, yes once its over the net people dont even bother to check facts or something like that, he was really into the conversation

ivy said...

@sharla -you'll have to read the transcript. But the essence is he had interviewed a crime stories writer, I believe, who had a guy making up insane stuff about her and publishing it online and he was really going too far with it, she sued him and there's a court order to take that down but nobody knows how to enforce such things. The segment was kind of out of the blue and the main point was anybody can make up anything on internet, it can be very damaging and it's very hard to fight against it.

jr said...

Yes, I found the cyber-stalking segment interesting tonight. I almost wished that Anderson would have spoke with Google and Yahoo to get their point of view.

@Sharla: Read the transcripts, it was a fascinating story. BTW, that guy looked like a creep!

Anonymous said...

like Anthony or Peter creep?

Anonymous said...

Peter is not creepy! only a little retarded and infantile for a senior citizen

Anonymous said...

Why does Sharla Dawn have a separate blog when she already dominates this one? What does Christianne do? Is Sharla Dawn the de facto moderator? Someone like Rosie O'Donnell would appreciate SD's personality, they both seem very aggressive and domineering, have to have the final word and never, EVER seem to stop talking about themselves.

Anonymous said...

@anonymous 3:07 AM - amen!

I am still amazed that Sharla Dawn is allowed to dominate this blog w/her narcissism. But beware, verbal stabbing to follow!

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

anon, ivy, and jr- WOW! And it was Patricia Cornwell too- I've read all the Scarpetta novels, she's great.

Obviously I did not SEE it (I'm going to check FreakTV, I guess, to see if it's been posted on YouTube) but I can see why the subject would interest him very much. "Once it's out there, it's out there," he said.

Yeah. And people will not only believe all the bad stuff they read, they'll expound upon it and thrash the hell out of you, plus, other people will join in. And like Anderson said, a few off-kilter wankers (ok, my words) will believe some of the crazier shit and possibly come after the target person. Scary thought.

Of course, the biggest think online is that people can TAKE YOUR WORDS OUT OF CONTEXT and make them look like something else (my goodness, has that happened recently to me?)- you'd have to read the whole thing in it's original form to see the person's intention.

Uh... yeah. Another reason why Stalker Boi got freakier when I read ALL the stuff he wrote, you know?

Anonymous said...

Of course, the biggest think online is that people can TAKE YOUR WORDS OUT OF CONTEXT and make them look like something else

People also take second hand rumors as fact, especially if it's something they want to believe.

Sharla Dawn Jones said...

That is correct. DL, for example, is a rumor mill. People believe whatever they want, including, apparently, that I am Anderson's cyberstalker. This is from a quote about me from my blog where I said I was trying to figure out what was really in his head by reading his stuff, gathering information, and watching him carefully. Dude. I do that with everyone. I try to get a real sense of who people are, past what is presented. I think some people need to look up the definition of "cyberstalking". Geez.

ivy said...

@jr

the most interesting is what can be done about it if anything. What cannot be changed is people's willinness to believe anything just beucase it's printed somewhere. I feel an agenda behind this segment, my guess is either all the stuff floating about anderson or jeff, an attempt to indirectly defuse it. It is a very interesting issue, I'm very curious to see if they'll develop the topic in the days to come.

Anonymous said...

This is from a quote about me from my blog where I said I was trying to figure out what was really in his head by reading his stuff, gathering information, and watching him carefully. Dude. I do that with everyone.

And yet you write, here and on your own blog, obsessively about Anderson.

What annoys me the most about your comments here is the sheer hypocrisy. You mock other fans yet exhibit behavior as extreme as the worst of them; you look into his eyes and magically intuit 'soul-crushing despair' (a phrase worthy of the most maudlin and melodramatic fanfic), you psychoanalyze without a license (or skill), you weave fantasies about how he just needs a REAL woman (yourself, perhaps?) to make a man out of him...

Dude. You're a fangurl. Just admit it and get over yourself.

Anonymous said...

@anon 1:10
BRAVO!!!! and Thank you for saying it.
I had enough with this obnoxious woman.

MANIFESTO

Don't think for me. Don't assume what I want to hear or read. Give me facts. Give me reasons. But not yours. Bring me debate. Enlighten me. Today, accountability is masked behind anonymity; bylines are hidden by zeros and ones. Everyone publishes; everyone is "in the know." Ethics are non-existent. Speculation is king. The truth is masked and a hostage. Empowered by our minds, WE ARE THE FREAKSPEAKERS!

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