Stalking Anderson Cooper Part 2
Another round of book signings, another round of stalkers sightings... GEESH!
We take this issue quite seriously, and I have to admit I am very impressed by all the comments of the previous posts and all the emails I have received this week. Stalking is simply HEINOUS, and there is a clear line between appreciation and entitlement.
I'm copying some comments from Betty B. ( BIG THANKS) that I think are very relevant to the topic. And please feel free to keep on with the discussion. It is serious and the debate brings light.
TALKING ABOUT LIGHT: We can't positively ID (nor are we interested in) people who appear at the book signings photos. Two readers are claiming: identity and mistaken identity regarding Madame X. Some have implied Madame X goes by the nick similar than mine, when someone by the name of (S) rudely claims to be Madame X (and by her attitude and the accounts I don't doubt it), I know people around these communities love to have multiple nicks, so as far as we are concern, we don't know who is who. Please try not to bring personal information around here. We don't promote Stalking Anderson nor Cyber Stalking. .Thank You!
And now Ms. Betty B Comment:
First of all, behavioral psychology tells you that you should not reward the conduct that you wish will become extinct. And he does reward it! How? Talking about his feelings about it on TV and dedicating whole segments to it. He is personalizing his experience and in a way he is directly talking to these people through his TV segments. IMHO this is a very stupid thing to do. They may be a lot of stalkers, but every time he talks about this, they may be thinking he is talking ABOUTT them and TO THEM ONLY(scary, I know) and not about the crazy crowd as a whole.
Second he should state only once and in a final statement what will happen if the stalking behaior persist - he has to be determined to stop it. No ambivalence, period.
Behavior never becomes extint when you exhibit so much ambivalence towards it. Its like the guy who calls you one day fails to call you for a week and then calls you back. Guess what? You will be waiting for the guy because you know he will likely call you back. Stalkers should not be welcomed at book signings. His PA, bodyguard, etc. should know who these people are and simply state they are not welcomed and make sure they arent. Most places reserve the right of admission so I dont think this wil be a legal issue at all.They should be permanently banned from having further contact. E-mails, letters personal contact, signings, etc. They should make sure these people are not able to send him stuff either. Im sure CNN can find a way of not recieving stuff from them, this will prevent them from creating fantasies regarding Anderson's possible reactions to their gifts etc...
Behavior fails to become extint when you respond in intervals. Anderson should decide how he wants to deal with this and stick to it. He should be determined and final when it comes to what consequences wil arise if the behavior persists. He should not reward the behavior talking about it and especially his feelings towards the situation. You know what, for stalkers a good or bad emotion or response from Anderson will do just the same. They wont feel sorry for him, or have a conscience.
Anderson has the right to privacy and his vital space and whoever disrupts that has the right to know that they will be dealt with.
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Ahhhh, stalking. I think I'm getting an ulcer from this.
I feel not only for Anderson, but for anyone who is in this situation that they cannot control- namely, the behavior of another person. This is such a difficult subject. It's difficult to know how to handle it, because so many stalkers are psychotics living in their own little bubble. Should you pop the bubble? What happens then?
That's the scary part. They could either (a) wake up and go "oh.... sorry" or (b) go bananas and kill you.
Great.
Anyone in a celebrity position is in great danger from stalkers. I feel that is because so many people see that person (in this case, Anderson Cooper) and make up in their head anything they want him to be. Then, they think about it... ask, believe... they want to receive it.... and what happens when it doesn't come true?
That's the danger of magical thinking. What you WISH so badly to be true... does not make it true.
There is a basis for this belief- you DO affect everything around you whether you're trying to or not. BUT- the people that have reached a delusional state fail to realize that they cannot CONTROL what is around them just by simply wishing it were so. And that is the danger! Once confronted with this reality... hopefully they won't do anything violent.
I can only hope.
An interesting topic and crazy too. The 360 blog has gotten so crazy. The Canadian lady, what's up with her? dial up? etc. etc. Is she one that is at every booksigning?
I dunno. I was hypothesizing on the other thread that I thought the 360 Blog moderator had been smoking crack that night and was stoned, lmao.
He/she/it is wacky. Sounds like this blog has been tracking some
of this bizarre stuff. I want to use another word, but it's a decent blog and don't want to get anyone upset. But, damn, this is so wrong.
Why do they keep on posting this stuff? It is so rude and bizarre and all the stuff about fans vs. everything else??? Anyway, thanks!
@Newsjunkie: It is interesting that you brought up "The Secret" with your comment regarding celebrities and stalkers.
I haven't gotten the book yet and want to but the point you make about Ask, Believe, Receive when it comes to stalkers is intriguing. When you think about it, constantly asking for and believing in a person can be a form of psychotic behavior.
Since I didn't read the book, I was wondering if a person wants to live by the concept of "The Secret", should they fixate on a person? Or is it more about focusing on those things that you have control over.
Ever since AC360 showcased this book, I have been more aware of my thoughts and I've been trying to think more positively but for a stalker, the Ask, Believe, Receive concept could force them to go overboard especially if that object is a person.
Perhaps there is a difference between the Ask, Believe, and Receive concept and simply wishing and dreaming.
Food for thought.............
Happy Mother's Day everyone!
Actually jr, the big deal with "The Secret" (funny, you realized what I was quoting! heehee)... is that it's talking about a completely hypothetical theory in physics (one of my favorite subjects), called STRING THEORY. And... if string theory were correct... then that means... that would actually work. Scary thought.
I dunno. Actually when I watched that particular segment (I was still watching then) I busted out laughing and said, "hell no! if that shit worked, Anderson would be married to a million different women and gay men right this very second!" HA.
"Anderson would be married to a million different women and gay men right this very second!"
Oh so true...thanks for the laugh!
If Anderson grew a hair on his chest for every person who decided to Ask, Believe, Receive after he showcased it on AC360, he would be a silver-back gorilla by now!!!
I have a friend that is trying to invoke The Secret, its almost like witchcraft mostly mental programming. I think.
Now I can imagine the sales of The secret and voodoo dolls raising.
A good idea for merchandising. Set up a display with a copy of Dispatches, Voodoo dolls and witchcraft books and The Secret. See Arachnae? I'm not that mean! Free marketing ideas for you!
Yeah! I want a voodoo doll! I already made one of Klein (kidding).
Then I can meditate, talk to the spirit world, and command the strings to do what I want.
Too bad I think that's all a big load of really smelly horse shit.
But I bet if I asked nicely, my wiccan buddy ARACHNAE could make me some love potion!! Pleeeze? I want to dump it in that cute guy's drink at the tattoo parlor.
@JR God bless you!
I needed to laugh!, I'm not good with "customer service" and really get annoyed by wieners.
I'm glad you enjoyed my snarkiness tonight :)
However, I'm sure that Anderson didn't know it at the time but he probably shouldn't have showcased that book....I think it got his crazy fans to be even more crazier!
Although Anderson is just trying to be polite and nice to people, it still blows my mind that stalker boi has gone to that many book signings and AC continues to meet him and sign his books. Perhaps he thinks he's harmless but I wouldn't take any chances, I would refuse to sign anymore books, especially when he just turns around and sells them on ebay anyway....now there's some profit for you!
BTW, does anyone know if stalker boi posts comments on the AC360 blog?
I have read them. I don't know if he is as frequent as the Anns, but to be honest, I barely read that blog. We have the windgets at the Freaks main page, I read the feed there but don't check the comments. I think I'm really missing something.
I also hope they dont become violent. But talking about them on TV is not helping Anderson's case either. If his wish is to do nothing about this and lay low, well he should do so without giving unecesarry attention to them, without indirectly rewarding their conduct. Because it is very likely that stalkers will come asking for more attention- and that is not good!
I think he is a very capable and mature man, but he is not being percieved as strong when he speaks sweetly to them (as in asking them for a favor- will you stop the stalking? pretty please?) and when he appears anxious and worried about this on TV.
I know other people need to percieve him as an approachable and generous guy, and I believe he truly is this way. But the guy also has basic needs; one of them is his privacy and security and that shouldnt be placed on hold for other peoples sake. Its a delicate balance, one which CNN must deal with(they have the resources) and make sure he feels protected and not so vulnerable- without affecting the way he does his work. They must know how to deal with this best- but they should deal with it privately instead of discussing strategies in front of millions of viewers. Just MHO.
@jr- the only comment I've seen from him recently was almost a year ago, and he was saying "please don't forget to mention me in your book" blah blah something about NOLA (where he'd followed him). He used his real name, and his real location. Other than that, I don't really know. However... I do know quite a bit about stalker boi....
I agree Betty,
If people could only see him as he is, A JOURNALIST, not a rock or movie star. He barely assist to big events, and God knows there is something every day in NYC.
And for some reason, the proximity of TV gives people a sense of entitlement they don't really have.
Some people even encourage the stalkers as if they were peons in order to share the information they comply.
Actually I am rather curious to hear Stalker Boi's defense against all the things I have said about him... you'd think he'd have said hello to me by now... I'm not hard to find....
he is scared of you, or of what you can really say about him
how is the saying?
the truth will set you free!
@christiane -amen. The whole insanity around Anderson is the most disturbing because he's a journalist and not a celebrity. Unhealthy attention like this, constant specualtion and almost maniacal desire to know and make public everything about his personal life might (and probably does) reflect on his ability to do his job the way he wants to do it, and also on his his mental and physical well-being.
No rudy, I think he's just a big fat chicken.
Most stalkers ARE. They're weak people and it makes them feel big and powerful to make someone ELSE feel weak.
jerks....
Thanks for this interesting topic
I just realized that rudy is trying to get me to spill what I know... how is this: no
"I had a privileged upbringing, but from an early age, I was taught by her that people whose objective was to make a large amount of money ended up unhappy. You have to contribute something and be true to yourself."
That is a quote from Anderson. The her he is talking about is his mother, one of the things he learned from her.
I find it ironic when he mentions people whose objective to make a large amount of money ended up unhappy. Maybe ironic is the wrong word, and perhaps Anderson's objective wasn't to make alot of money, but I find it interesting that he IS making alot of money and I will bet is not entirely happy.
Just my little old opinion.
Well that makes perfect sense.
I hate money because of what it does to people... those that have it usually end up unhappy as hell because not only can money not BUY you happiness, it can pretty much prevent you from finding it because you can't trust people anymore... they want what you've got.
Gloria Vanderbilt says some pretty interesting and occasionally highly insightful things. Other than that... I really don't know much about her other than her very interesting love life that she quite handily wrote in a book for me to read. Thanks?
"Thanks?"
Thanks with a question mark? I don't give a rat's a _ _ about Gloria Vanderbilt and the love life she was able to "buy" with her name and money and wants us to know it (by writing the book).
O.K. I'll shut up now.
Regarding stalker boy, the way I try to think of things I do in my life, would I be able to stand up in front of my friends, family, a church congregation, a judge, or whomever and told them the honest truth about the things I do or have done, would I feel proud and feel good about what I have done. Or embarrassed and humiliated beyond belief. My guess the stalker would not feel good.
My opinion only. I don't know.
Yeah I said thanks with a question mark because I don't think I was very appreciative of the insight. Actually I felt rather sorry for her- um, searching for happiness in other people DOES NOT WORK.
@anon 9:07- the stalker? feeling good? Oh no, I doubt that. He's apparently freaked the hell out... he seems to be rapidly disappearing off the net. I wonder what he's trying to hide? gee... can't be good... I'm betting that it's worse than what I've already found... and therefore, that is surely a really, REALLY bad thing.
"Yeah I said thanks with a question mark because I don't think I was very appreciative of the insight."
I am sorry, didn't to hurt or offend or whatever I did in anyway.
I feel sorry for her as I believe she has no scruples, morals, and honestly believes it o.k. and is quite proud of herself that she sleeps around with any man that breathes, some married, and sorrier for Anderson as I have read him say he was embarrassed with her lifestyle.
No more on the topic, for me.
If I were the stalker boy, I would be running for the hills right now. From what I've seen, and I am sure I don't know the most of it, it isn't good, but he better be making tracks out of Anderson's "life".
If my mother was alive, she would be GV age, and God knows how different their younger years were from ours. Difficult historical transitions and society changes, and what I really think is appealing of Gloria is that she TRIED TO LIVE, she gave herself opportunities. Something that younger generations are losing with the "cocoon effect" of the technological advantages and commodities we have, like spending and entire day chatting online instead of simply sitting in a coffee shop talking with friends.
Personally I'm guilty of that and I'm not the only one... but granted, online is fun! LOL
We don't know to which levels, if any, Gloria's choices affected her family. But at least SHE MADE CHOICES. But let's keep in mind that there is no such thing as a perfect family... everyone at one moment or other have developed a grunge against a sibling, a parent, cousins... etc!
The only difference is that they did it in the limelight, not behind closed doors.
I cannot imagine how difficult it must be to try to live your life and have everyone looking at you at the same time. I have noticed that with celebrities before- they are stalked by the paparazzi as they try to just about their daily business. They might be objects of interest to many, but they are still people, with wants, loves, and needs.
How unfortunate that this seems to bring the crazies out of the woodwork in droves.
@ Christiane
Could have not said it better. Life is about choices. I think we all do the best we can with what life throws at us and its unfair to judge the events/decisions in the past with the information we have now in the present.
I think GV just did the best she could, and wether close to Anderson or not, she gave birth and raised an honest, dedicated and responsible human being and for that she has my respect! I believe that's her most important contribution.
I read GV's book about her love life and found it quite interesting. I don't think we have the right to judge the "morals" of somebody's personal life. I think love, people's relations is one of the biggest mysteries of human nature. We are all bound to make mistakes.
She was HOT when she was young, knew how to talk to men and was a creative person, so I'm sure that played a lot more role in getting so much male attention then money. At the time it did matter what social class you belonged to to be in "rich and/or famous" circle so to speak, but she wasn't the only "rich" girl with a famous name. Unlike a lot of those she chose to make something of herself.
Who said we were judging her morals.
And yes, she did make something of herself, good for her. Her jeans fit nice :D and I happen to have the world's coolest spice jar set that someone gave me.
I read the book, like I said. She mentioned Wyatt Cooper briefly but said the book was about love lost or something, so she just sort of said a little bit and then moved on to another person. I personally found her accounts VERY SADDENING, because of her desperation to fulfill herself... which, like I've said about a million times, you cannot fill the hole in your soul with someone else. It comes from within.
For starters you'd have to realize that you're not a complete person and then you'd have to work on being more confident with who you are inside, and what you want to be... and then DO IT. Sounds easy but it's NOT. To change yourself is a monumental task- I've done it with great pain, I must say.
It looks to me like Gloria's insecurities created a very insecure son- Anderson, of course. I feel badly for him. I'm not judging her parenting skills or anything else- just pointing out the glaringly obvious. And yet, as children, we love our parents anyway even with gigantic faults. That's just the way love is.
Who said we were judging her morals.
@newsjunkie, anon 9:22 did
@ newsjunkie:
Your posts are right on! Hey, does anyone know what DL means in a blog or refers to?
@anon
DL is DataLounge, it's a gossip board.
First of all, GV is not the only high society maiden to grace NYC with her appeal. Good God, my own mom was prettier than GV fashion wise and w/o the plastic surgery. I am not placing fault on GV, as I don't know her. However, any child who describes growing up as having no reins whatsoever,is reason for me to believe that there was more than gross neglect on the part of the parent. Is it GV's fault that Anderson chose to raise himself, Carter's gone, Chris is estranged? NO, of course it isn't her fault. But I know she could have made an effort to do much better than she did. If you place your children's welfare BEFORE yourself, love them unconditionally and wholeheartedly in lieu of the excitement over your sheetmates, you KNOW you've done your best. However, when your offspring have issues, how do you know you couldn't have saved them from pain if you weren't there for them in the first place? There is nothing about her that I see as remarkable. I'm not impressed.
Oy, now everyone is attacking Gloria Vanderbilt. What the hell happened to this thread? lol... it WAS about stalking...
I ain't attacking nobody's mamma, no matter what I might think about them. That's just all sorts of wrong. I pointed out what I think about her self-esteem, but I'm not commenting on her parenting skills or anything else about her at all. It's just RUDE.
@ ivy,
Thanks!
You're right. I agree. Wendy and Christina are far more interesting and deserve our scorn where poor GV doesn't.
Got to get back to work. Sorry!
@anon 5:13
read at your own risk -lol When I first came to the blog world I was immediately accused of being from "DL" and I also was like "what the .. is DL"? -)
It looks to me like Gloria's insecurities created a very insecure son
I'm not sure if he's so insecure. He seems very self-possessed and comfortable with himself in spite of all the trauma he's gone through in life.
I disagree. I think it's a front, a barrier, to protect his soft inside.
Take that how you want.
It's possible that he's very sensitive, but at the same time I think he's strong-willed. Look at how he always refuses to address certain issues in his personal life, no matter who or what tries to badger it out of him. He sticks to his guns. This is where I think he's tough.
Like I said, a barrier. "Nope, you ain't lookin' in here...."
That's not a bad thing, in that particular respect.
Very soft squishie insides.... That's what I think makes him such a caring person. He seems pretty nice from what I've seen and heard about him. And we all know I got to meet him for a whole five seconds *oh, whoopie*
Five seconds with him is more than I'll ever get!
I don't think GV is insecure, newsjunkie. Why do you think so?
Um... I recommend looking up "insecure" in the dictionary.
I'll save you the trouble. Prepare to be bored. (Thank you, Wikipedia.)
Insecurity is a feeling of general unease or nervousness that may be triggered by perceiving oneself to be unloved, inadequate or worthless. A person who is insecure lacks confidence in their own value and capability, trust in themselves or others.
Insecurity has many effects in a person's life. There are several levels of it. It nearly always causes some degree of isolation as a typically insecure person withdraws themselves to some extent. The greater the insecurity, the higher the degree of isolation. Insecurity is often rooted in a person during their childhood years.
Like offense and bitterness, it grows in layer fashion, often becoming an immobilising force that sets a limiting factor in the person's life. Insecurity robs by degrees - the degree it is entrenched is the degree of power it has in the person's life.
Insecurity can stem from the individual's immediate environment. People are not born insecure, it is a learned behaviour. From a young age people are told how to be and what to be.
Insecurity can be overcome. It takes time and patience and a willingness to believe each person (and specifically oneself) is in fact of innate value.
Wow, it's like quoting myself. Hmmm... who else does that describe? Gee.....
Figured while I was at it, we've been discussing Anderson's apparent high anxiety over this lovely stalking issue we've been analyzing over here... so I look that up too.
Anxiety is an unpleasant state that involves a complex combination of emotions that include fear, apprehension, and worry. It is often accompanied by physical sensations such as heart palpitations, nausea, chest pain, shortness of breath, or tension headache. Sigmund Freud recognized anxiety as a "signal of danger" and a cause of "defensive behavior". He believed we acquire anxious feelings through classical conditioning and traumatic experiences.
Yup, once again... that describes to a tee our favorite newsman...
So, what do you think? Am I correct in my observation, or am I completely off base?
"I don't think GV is insecure, newsjunkie. Why do you think so?"
I have heard Anderson say that she is insecure during various interviews in print or speaking
@newsjunkie
In his book, Anderson does describe having what sounds like anxiety attacks in the past, so you may not be offbase. As someone who suffers from anxiety, though, I wouldn't think he would be able to do all he does if this were still a major issue for him. Maybe he's learned to manage it.
I am asking for everyone's help.
I have been sitting here for five days straight, researching our favorite stalker boi. He's... um... scaring the shit outta me with how nuts he is in Anderson's direction.
Whilst doing so, I have gotten quite a few emails, and now... I have five manila folders on potential stalkers. Okay well one of them is stalker boi and he IS a stalker.
Anyhow, I'm not overwhelmed, not yet. I'm merrily collecting information and checking them all out to search for potential dangerous ones.
But then I realized... five? FIVE? Jesus Christ Almighty on that one. I bet there are a whole lot more. If anyone has any information of names and locations, or copies of postings that sound bizarre, PLEASE email them to me.
DO NOT post anything in the comments section naming names. WE WILL NOT let them stay; they will be deleted. No name calling, no finger pointing, if you send me bullshit because you hate your neighbor I'm going to get pissed. This is serious.
My mother instincts have kicked in. I feel like a mama duck defending her baby duck against a whole horde of snakes in this particular instance. That's pretty much how Anderson strikes me- someone that needs protecting. Sorry if that makes me sound like a dumbass. I can't help it. I hate that people prey on others... and, as I feel I can do something about it-- I WILL.
Thank you in advance.
I Gloria even eludes to being insecure or not knowing herself, she thought running away at 18 and getting married would prove her to be all grown up, stayed in two bad marriages, well, you get it.
Newsjunkie how can you tell who is harmless and who really wants to harm Anderson? I am an admirer of his, used to be a fangurl, but after awhile all that stuff got really old. I do admire the man for what he has done in the way of reporting and bringing certain topics to the public interest and have written a couple feed backs telling him so, but that's it. Oh I was at the book signing and was totally embarrassed by all the loud fawning going on by certain people. I had my book signed and left right away to get away from all the chaos, my head hurt for two days afterwards.
Anonymous 10:00PM has a point. I, myself, have gone to a book signing, read his book, periodically sends in feedback to his show and participates in this blog about him and his show topics. Could all of that be considered stalker-like?
Just look at the AC360 Blog, most of the regulars (including one particular Ann and I won't mention names) is persistent with her blogging and fawning of Anderson to the point where it could be considered obsessive. Is there such a thing as a cyber stalker?
Let's hope not or else we all would be guilty....LOL
I believe a real stalker, as I think Sharla describes them, is someone with compulsive behavior, insist in contacting the object of its affection, probably has a criminal record or was convicted of a felony or a history of serious untreated mental illness and searches for validation.
I don´t think someone who appreciates Anderson, assist to his public appearances and participates in blogs and forums are stalkers or dangerous. But it is important to know how to differentiate and identify the warning signs and not encourage them.
People think because they meet people online, they become friends or "know" someone. Some online users abuse of anonymity, use multiple nicks, or are craving for attention that leave a trail of evidence.
The internet IS NOT A SAFE PLACE. And someone you might think is your friend, a "good fan" or a "field trip partner" can be a very dangerous person.
I don't think that people who send in occasional feedback to the show can be considered stalkers, nor are the attendees of the book signings.
Some of those blog commentors seem to think they're "stars" themselves, especially the incessant and incredibly tiresome Betty Ann.
I think the "Anns" are spin moderators. People hired to create controversy and grassroots for the "life" of the blog.
For those of you that saw The Mole, do you remember the "Town Idiot"? Newsrooms reunite and create "Doña Chenchas" just in order to steam off from a very very stressful job.
Just don´t get it too seriously.
@christiane tell me about it. I've met only 2 people online and in real life that I truly trust and both are great. But you are right you never know who is out there. Some so called Anderfans will never listen to reason and when they are in a weird situation they ask why.
@Christiane: I'm relatively new at this whole blogging thing but from what I can gather, the net can be dangerous and I admit, it often makes me think twice before I blog my two cents. It's too bad people can't be real and themselves.
So does stalker boi have a criminal background? That's even more scary!
And my point about the Ann's is just that. They get special attention by AC360. They are posted, he reads their comments, questions on air, and they now think they are the AC360 star bloggers which simply annoys me because if you really want to take AC and his reporting seriously, why would you enjoy reading their lame comments?
And if CNN wants to promote these characters on their blog, then why not make it a closed community or at least announce that it is. Afterall, my guess is that there are more bloggers whose comments get rejected on the AC360 blog than posted.
@jr you're right quite a lot of pots do get rejected - there is a note right on the blog. Some people post only when Anderson blogs others like me when they feel they have something constructive to contribute, but we always don't get posted. It also depends when you respond the quicker you respond the better your chances(just watch the time spread.) Also I think who and what gets posted depends on who is doing the moderating that day.
I think once they see your post and like what you say they will post your comments. Just don't get too cocky or too cute. The Ann's have the market on cute covered lol.
@ Christiane
I agree with you. Some people are not likely to follow Anderson around the world but they are still harmful to him through the things they post about him on the internet.
Betty Ann's comments get posted no matter what and on ALL of the blog posts, so something must be up with how the moderator view her posts.
This is how the disclaimer should read on the 360 Blog:
Editor’s Note: We receive hundreds, sometimes thousands, of comments on this blog each day. Unfortunately, due to the high volume, we cannot post all of them (Psst....only Betty Ann’s). But we appreciate your thoughts and hope you enjoy the comments included in the dialogue below. Thank you for your participation.
Oh yes, life and the 360 Blog can be so unfair can't it?
How can you not be suspicious about BettyAnn's comments when she posts something along the lines of I don't wanna, and it gets read by Anderson for the world to hear. When the podcast began, she posted some utterly ridiculous post about the blog being way cool, Anderson being way cool, CNN is so cool! I couldn't believe my eyes. There is something not right in Denmark and it ain't the fish.
What makes me suspicious about BettyAnn is that she is obviously middle aged & unemployed in a small, nothing town in TX. I can't imagine SHE is the demographic 360 wants to attract. Most people in a similar predicament are fighting to survive everyday. They can't be bothered with worries about the Planet in Peril, war, stalkers.
"Anonymous 10:00PM has a point. I, myself, have gone to a book signing, read his book, periodically sends in feedback to his show and participates in this blog about him and his show topics. Could all of that be considered stalker-like?"
I certainly hope that is not stalker-like because that probably makes 90% of the people out there guilty! Anderson/CNN/book publisher have book signings, blogs, etc. I assume because they want people to show up at events and blog and watch his show and so on or they wouldn't have these events. Well... I think you know what I'm saying.... just can't be obsessive and act upon them.
Off topic, yet maybe stalker-related since the guy said he thought Anderson was cute:
Remember the man who paid $21,000 for lunch with Anderson? Has anyone heard if that lunch has taken place yet?
I have wondered quite often about the illustrious Betty Ann (and well, we said not to name names, but everyone just did). I have always thought she was not a real person.
Yes there is such a thing as cyberstalking. No, we aren't doing that :) Like Christiane says, real stalkers are obsessive, compulsive, follow the person around, make bizarre, weird, and inconsistent comments, post shit on the internet talking all about the things they'd like to do if they got their hands on him... now, some fan fic is just that- some is not. Um... I have experience and I know what I'm doing? The only thing I don't have access to is whatever the hell CNN is actually getting (I'm sure it's insane), however, everything else is right out here and in our faces.
And uh, yeah... you'd be (not) surprised at who actually has a criminal record and what it's for...
Oh, and I got an email asking me if I were crazy. Why no! I just had a psych eval yesterday and they said I could come out of the soft squishie room, as long as I don't play with pointy objects! I'M KIDDING!!!!! (Everyone needs a laugh, right?)
Please keep up the emails, I'd be happy as a clam to see my inbox explode!
Oops, I'm retarded, I can't make a comment to save my life sometimes.
RE: The person that asked me if I thought that CNN kept tabs on these people... well DUH, I'm sure they do! I'm just taking this on like another job... you never know what I might find that they don't.
It certainly does NOT help that Anderson talks about his anxiety right there on TV. Uh, that's not exactly smart. Hey Anderson... SHUT UP!!
@anonymousaba Well, to be fair, the podcast IS cool (since I can't stay up late enough to watch the show, I like to be able to watch the highlights at work during lunch), but yeah, I didn't use it as an opportunity to fawn over Anderson on the 360 blog. Not that it would've posted if I had, since I don't have "Ann" in my name.
I feel Anderson showing his anxiety on tv or in some other public forum just scores points for the stalker(s). Would the stalker be taking pride in seeing what they are doing to the poor guy?
anon 1:57- I don't know, actually. The stalkers (real ones, anyway) rather enjoy instilling fear because it gives them a sense of power. The cyberstalkers usually are just spewing hatred and enjoying making the person look bad.
Hmmm... maybe that does make the stalkers happy. I just said a couple posts up for Anderson to shut up... that was pretty much why.
UGH, have been reading some fanfic... OMFG that is SO DISGUSTING. I cannot believe people sit there and daydream up this shit about someone they don't even know, and in painfully gross-as-hell detail. I don't get that people can do that... however, I think I'm going to *puke* from what I've been reading all day!!
@newsjunkie or jr:
I commend you for all you do on this issue. Do you have the flickr link to this boi? I will be in Atlanta on Friday and just want to do some roving reporting.
He took down his Flikr account (most likely screaming in fear)... but WE have a picture of him. It's actually right on this site. He's wearing blue, sitting in the audience at the book signing, looking mean... see if you can find him. If you can't... I have a close up of him :)
@ newsjunkie:
Is he in the "OHH" capped photo blue shirt and brown hair?
Dear God, that is another one? When he sells on EBAY what is his screen name, do you know?
So this is the guy with the AHC photos and the porn? I have never seen so much shit in my life.
Yep, that's Stalker Boi, whose name everyone knows and just isn't saying. Well, they're not SUPPOSED to anyway.
He's disgusting. Yeah, he's the one with the gay porn up... ew. I have gay friends and could care less when they're making out in front of me (makes me giggle, actually...) but as for what happens when they leave? Don't wanna know.
I just noticed stalker boi's flicker account was gone while looking for some "Anderson-not-at-his-best" pictures.
Actually he seems to have pulled down everything he could find, including his own disgusting blog. Fortunately for me, I got it already. He has QUITE the perverted imagination. Why does it not surprise me he's a sadist? Um... dunno. Go figure.
"As for the alleged female stalker he called a few years ago, I did exchange a few emails with that person early last year. This was before this blog was created. I don't think she stalks him anymore, so she is probably not the person he is referring to."
You were talking to the WRONG person in those emails Marie if she said she used to stalk Anderson! The woman that Anderson called has never stalked him ... ever! I really hope people don't believe everything they read in emails from people they don't really know.
Also, it would be a wonderful thing if people didn't lump in every mindless, silly to the point of stupid, obsessive act as stalking. It gets so annoying to read someone's innocent commentary on seeing Anderson in person, taking note of what building or shop he entered, and then seeing that person labeled a stalker. They aren't stalking him -- they are being snoops. There's a big difference!
I happen to be the "girl" (as you put it) who posted on another blog about looking into his eyes and wanting to faint. Please lighten up, I was just an attempt at humor and I don't want to be even mentioned in a post that has to do with stalking Anderson. I tried to write up a very positive description of what happened at that booksigning....focusing on what he did that was decent, how gracious he was to everyone, even the crazies. I don't dwell on negative and I'm not a fangirl, but hey, I was caught off guard by what I saw in his eyes, and what I saw was everything that I admire - the integrity, honesty, hard work and decency. No one respects Anerson more for his work than I do. I completely understand where you're coming from about the stalkers and agree, it's an insane, sad, horrible situation, but being a fan of Anderson amounts to about 1% of my busy life and I would appreciate not being mentioned in the same breath as those others. As you did, I went to a booksigning to enjoy myself for a night, meet someone I respect, thanked him for taking the time to do it and that was that. Thanks for listening, I'm not trying to start anything, but don't be so quick to label everyone. Take to heart what you speak about in your own manifesto, about accountability, ethics, speculation, etc.
I practically fainted myself. And the "girl" I was referring to was a teenager. And she certainly didn't sound as eloquent as you do in that comment.
There is a great big difference between an obsessive fan, a silly/stupid fan, and someone who is dangerous. Lots of people have daydreams about the man. Quite a few even write love stories, and emails, and send gifts. SO? Do not think I'M thinking they're stalkers. Apparently on a board out there they were calling each other stalkers with great glee.
Stalking is something serious. It involves behavior beyond obsessive that becomes dangerous. Just daydreaming and talking about love is not it. The true stalkers will gain entrance to his house (one for Stalker boi!), follow the person to places they normally wouldn't have gone (try, NOLA?!), show up repeatedly in places that are very much out of their way to see the person (around the country to lots of book signings), approach the person constantly to talk to (pin that one on him too)... I could keep going.
If any old person that posted numerous comments on the blog, participates in a forum of sorts about the person like this one, emails CNN, and/or has ever sent Anderson a letter was labeled a stalker- then most of the people on this blog including ME would be in trouble.
Out of the piles of shit I have received, only one concerns me. And that is the one I started with. All the others may be delusional but rather happy in their own little heads and are not likely to snap and try to hurt him. Well, good.
Thanks for your response and I’m really sorry for overreacting – the hot Irish temper always gets the best of me, damn!! But then, I always cool down quickly. All this talk of stalking issues got me upset. I didn’t read the accounts of the teenager who said she wanted to faint and given that I’m in my 30’s, we’ll…..that definitely wasn’t me.
Yes, I did have a moment of weakness when I met him (due to the reasons stated above) and when I shared that account on-line, I went out of my comfort zone to do so, because I’m pretty reserved. I wanted to let others know that he was gracious, because I hate all the rumors, crap and nonsense that’s usually written, that’s all. Looking back on it now, I’m laughing at myself for reacting the way I did, but I would never want anyone who read that to associate it with stalking, because his well-being is first and foremost.
The one damper on the book signing experience was seeing some of the stranger people that were there. After I got my book signed, my husband and I stood towards the back so I could take some pictures and I just wanted to enjoy watching him interact with people. Quite frankly, I don’t have a problem with the teenage girls who squee. If I had kids, I’d be thrilled that Anderson was the person they were squeeing over, versus some trashy loser. We’ve all been kids at one time and when I think back to being that age, you don’t see the big picture, so I tend to cut them some slack, even if they only like him for his looks, they’re harmless. It’s the adults we need to be concerned about, travelling all over the country, etc. At one point, my husband turned to me and said, “Did you see that……..uuhh, that’s just creepy,” referring to someone that wouldn’t take the hint to leave and just kept lurking around. It really put a damper on it for me, knowing they’re out there. I hope his security people have their act together. Again - sorry!!
Hi Anon, and newsjunkie thanks to clarify.
We have been loud about the stalking because as we have stated, there are some boundaries people are crossing, and its obvious AC is really resenting it. I have read accounts about someone standing in front of his building, chatting up neighbors, contacting his family, Is that normal, is that necessary? it's not like they are watching a live transmission of the 360 show from Time Square or NOLA, they are hunting him down. They are invading his private spaces and times. Its not like you saw him across the street and just screamed OMG!! I Love you! but constantly trying to figure out his itinerary, hanging out in places he might attend in his down time, showing up everywhere, and if with that you sprinkle a colorful illegal past... But I'm happy you came around and read it by yourself. And WELCOME!
I'll just add that the difference is that this person thinks that doing all the things christiane mentioned above is as normal as brushing teeth in the morning.
@ newsjunkie:
SB = Forest Hills
Y or N
I put my real name back on here, I don't know why exactly. Just felt like it I guess.
@press pass- nope. Try Allentown.
"I am asking for everyone's help.
I have been sitting here for five days straight, researching our favorite stalker boi. He's... um... scaring the shit outta me with how nuts he is in Anderson's direction.
Whilst doing so, I have gotten quite a few emails, and now... I have five manila folders on potential stalkers. Okay well one of them is stalker boi and he IS a stalker.
Anyhow, I'm not overwhelmed, not yet. I'm merrily collecting information and checking them all out to search for potential dangerous ones.
But then I realized... five? FIVE? Jesus Christ Almighty on that one. I bet there are a whole lot more. If anyone has any information of names and locations, or copies of postings that sound bizarre, PLEASE email them to me.
DO NOT post anything in the comments section naming names. WE WILL NOT let them stay; they will be deleted. No name calling, no finger pointing, if you send me bullshit because you hate your neighbor I'm going to get pissed. This is serious.
My mother instincts have kicked in. I feel like a mama duck defending her baby duck against a whole horde of snakes in this particular instance. That's pretty much how Anderson strikes me- someone that needs protecting. Sorry if that makes me sound like a dumbass. I can't help it. I hate that people prey on others... and, as I feel I can do something about it-- I WILL.
Thank you in advance.
5/14/2007 8:41 PM
You do realize, you are STALKING people. You do, don't you? And you aren't Anderson's mother. Now who's delusional? But the crazies always end up running the asylum. Classic projection.
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